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Just a post for my own 'memories' really - before I go hazy on anything else;) [Oct. 20th, 2004|04:43 pm]
Miss Von Trapp
[Mood |curiouscurious]
[Music |Siouxsie and the Banshees: Wheels on Fire (ab fab moment)]

How I 'got Goth' : Let this be a lesson to you all!!
(VampGirl's very own downward spiral...)

I grew up listening to all genres of music from a very early age. My parents are music teachers and taught me to appreciate and devour everything musically all my life...

I used to sit on the church organ seat next to my father when he played voluntaries, marches and scary church hymns on the big old pipe 'monster' as he called it (proper closet Phibes he is!). I sat and watched transfixed through the entire Wagner 'Der Ring des Nibelungen' (Ring Cycle) opera when it was shown over about six weeks on the television - lots of huge staging and exciting fire effects...bit like a Rammstein gig lol!

I also used to get taken to big orchestral concerts/rehearsals as my parents both played in the Philharmonic orchestra - and had to sit about (or sing) in Philharmonic choir practices on a Friday evening - was almost always Handel's Messiah, Verdi's Requiem or Dream of Gerontius or some such...

Pupils in their teenage years would be coming in and out of the house for private music lessons ever since I was a toddler - some of them were posh public schoolboys who dressed 'punk' and such-like - and my mother would have me singing arias in latin and german before I was even junior school age - whilst I was still in Infants class!!

When I was 8 (1982), my dad gave me his old radio - and I kept it under my bed in my room, permanently tuned into Radio Luxembourg - sometimes Radio One - so that I could listen to programmes like John Peel and the Peel Sessions when I was in bed at night - or on long sunday afternoons when I'd gone to my room to draw or read... I used to make a lot of compilation tapes from them.

Between the ages of 8 and 11 (1982-1985) I went to school discos and danced to all the New Romantic stuff - I was utterly in love with Adam Ant for a very long while and then Morten Harket from A-Ha! when I was 11. I also started learning the 'cello when I was 10 years old.

I went alternative/glammy-biker then goth when I hit my teenage years.

At aged 12 (1986), one of my friends in choir (or it might have been orchestra - not sure) gave me a tape when we were attending a synth workshop. It was 'The Cure: Standing on a Beach' ... and I LOVED it. At that point I was hooked...

And then, at 13 (1987), another youth theatre friend gave me a tape with various stuff on it - Bonzo Dog Doo Dah band, Voice of the Beehive ('Beat of Love' and I think 'Barbarian' was on there too - not sure), Hendrix, The Stranglers, Siouxsie, Echo and the Bunnymen and The Damned amongst other things... On this tape were some alt/goth bands I already loved from listening to my radio all the time and from watching TOTP etc - but I also discovered more alternative groups to listen to as we shared our favourite songs with each other...

And then in the same year, one of my church friends who was about 5 years older than me lent me his Cure videos to watch - Live in Orange (which had just come out) and the singles - Caterpillar Girl and suchlike. I spent hours watching those tapes and totally fell in love with Robert Smith and began to develop my gothy image... At least, it was mostly plenty of blaaaack (my school jumper was, handily, black - as was the skirt - and I had a LONG black duster/nurses coat from an army surplus store) and lots of eyeliner...

I was also very inspired by the 'Doctor and the Medics' dancers in the video for Spirit in the Sky - this too impacted on my style of makeup... And the guy who lent me the Cure videos, myself and a whole huge group of mates who I still see (one of which works with me now and also reminds me of things I've forgotten - Michele) would go to the pub together after/during church and also have dodgy 'fancy dress' parties - which were ACTUALLY Rocky Horror parties - only I'd have to always turn up in some stupid outfit and then get changed/undressed in the loo when I was there so that my parents didn't know...

Tch Tch.

From the age of 14 to 15 (1988 - 1989), I was playing bass guitar in an all-girl 'rock band' with my friends (although I started with my cello as I had no bass or proper amp and the Norman headstock I was using with a hifi speaker attached kept blowing valves anyway... and we were crap and could only ever manage T.Rex songs) - we went to a lot of glam/spandex/rock/alternative gigs in the local scene, and I began to develop a more advanced glammy crossed with Siouxsie sort of style. I became addicted to crimping and huge cans of 'Hard As Rock' hairspray...

My goth musical/fashion tastes broadened as I met more people into the goth scene (the band fell apart in early 1990 over arguments over our name - and our 'lead guitarist' moved to australia with her parents) and we'd trawl charity shops for clothes to customise/shred etc - anything made out of velvet, lace or silk... and cutting the fingers off lacy gloves and things like that...

By late 1989/ early 1990 (aged 15/16) I began to regularly attend goth and rock clubs in town with friends I'd made at the gigs I'd been to with my bandmates when I was 14 ( Pete at work remembers... apparently I could drink bottles of Newcastle Brown Ale faster than it took for him/other friends to pay for them...) I was obsessed with looking like Siouxsie and then, later, Death from the Sandman comics.

I *think* 1989 was the year my hair went permanent black...if not, then I'd done it by mid-1990 definately!!

I'd go to Academy, Studio, Connections and Charlies on various Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights... and be pretty much hammered all night - big hair, dry ice and wild dancing... Listening to Sisters, Fields of the Nephilim and other big goth bands on the scene - but also still all the earlier New Romantic/Alt stuff from before...

At this point I was telling my parents that I was staying at church-friends houses for the weekend and that we spent the evenings eating pizza and watching music videos on MTV - this was partly true as this was what we did AFTER the club, but anyway...

Between the ages of 16 to 18 (1990-92) I'd spend the evenings before going out with friends listening to Bauhaus on vinyl - or taking speed or mushrooms, smoking Death cigarettes, being snotty elitist gawths and listening to Sisters, Dead Can Dance, Foetus, Skinny Puppy, Front 242, Sheep on Drugs and Revolting Cocks and the ubiquitous rest of it... Then we'd go out all gothed up and wasted...

By the time I turned 18 in June of 1992 I had a speed (and dope) habit - not a good thing even though I was damn skinny - and was out in clubs almost every night of the week. Naturally, I screwed up my A-level exams at a crucial point...

My tutor, Mr. Garner, told me I was burning the candle at both ends during my A Level English lessons.
I see him in college now as he's head of the Media department where I'm doing Film Studies and he describes me as 'a bit of a wild child' back then...

I was also kicked off A-Level Art during this time for apparently spending more time on my makeup and crimping than I did on my actual painting or other artwork (strangepixel will remember this vividly).

This wasn't true. I mostly slept in my makeup and reapplied the eyeliner at least in the morning and then gave my hair a crimpy-topup before getting through the day on caffeine and the weekend on speed...

The rest, as they say, is history - I've been crawling my way back up... which I'm sure you know all about from real life experience of knowing me, or from reading my nostalgic crap in this journal (or can imagine) by now... But I've never posted about my 0-17 years on lj before, so there you go;)

*grin*

And, NO, I didn’t 'Get God' instead or any such crap after all those 'Got Goth' years - that's not the form of crawling out of holes I've been having to do recently and the above is not a testimonial in any way either... I’m not ashamed in any way of my past history – those years were both a blast and an education and I look forward to the next lot lol - though that's it for the drugs now (pretty much) - I'll stick with caffeine I think... and I'm just maybe a little more savvy, older and wiser about the whole thing!! ;)

Well, that was me, how did it happen for you?? *curious*
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[User Picture]From: ming_the_twat
2004-10-20 08:57 am (UTC)
NOT THE BONZO DOG DOO DAH BAND!!!!!!


AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 08:59 am (UTC)
"Here comes the Equestrian Statue...."

Hehehehe!! LOVE 'EM!!!

(ok, so I'm the daughter of a posh public-school music teacher twit - s'not my fault I share my fathers humour...)
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-21 12:25 pm (UTC)

I'm Gonna Get You In My Tent...

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[User Picture]From: hawklord2112
2004-10-20 09:08 am (UTC)
1) i can't answer your final question since i'm not a goth..

2) i'm sure i remember you from later. I met you in my second year here in plymouth, when i was 20. so you would have been 20 too...
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 09:13 am (UTC)
Oh duh, I met you when I'd only just met Leighton - before we went to Liverpool... Which was mid 1993 I think lol!

I left Plymouth mid-1994 and didn't come back till 1997...

*see, this is my brain on drugs...*

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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 09:15 am (UTC)
You know I've just realised - I'm confusing places I've seen YOU at with places I've seen PETE at (connections and biker parties) - he's at my workplace these days and has filled in a lot of the blanks in my early nineties for me... esp. about the Newcy Brown consumption...as he used to buy it for me back in the day!

I wrote this after work this morning so forgive me for mixing you up:/
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[User Picture]From: hawklord2112
2004-10-20 09:23 am (UTC)
it can be forgiven. most things can :)
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 12:33 pm (UTC)
The Fact that I can't remember hardly anything BUT drugs and blurry fuzzy drunk club memories from the years of 1990 to 1994 is NOT a thing to be forgiven tho - I screwed up my A Levels seriously...

Two Ds when I'd been predicted two Bs and all my coursework was A/B... I don't even remember ever being in 6th form AT ALL!!

(maybe I was there, maybe I wasn't - I simply have no idea)

And the fact that Pete has to TELL ME what I was like in these clubs and how much I drank frightens me - I only really have one or two vivid memories - and those are pink neon vomit from tequila sunrises and of sticking speed up my nose in the ladies loos in Connections in front of those mirrors...

And that people come up to me and tell me they were my best mates - or that I used to hang out with them for a year and I don't have a FUCKING CLUE who the FUCK they are...

:/

*shameful*
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 11:00 pm (UTC)
Edited to correct my error about you and Pete lol!!

Now, could you remind me when and how we met? Cause I honestly don't remember for definate:/

(fill in the blanks please? But, NO, this doesn't allow you to make shit up lol!!)
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 11:29 pm (UTC)
NOT on lj here though - tell me in person - some things might just be TOO embarrassing:/
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[User Picture]From: hawklord2112
2004-10-21 01:30 am (UTC)

i wouldnt call it embarrasing (well not for you anyway)

i came to plymouth in 92-93 and in my second year here (93-94) i was a regular at connections. i met you in there through John Chapman, Debbie Moore and Lin Given. I think you were at one or tow of john and deb's big parties and crashed over once or twice.

my overbearing memories of you at the time were of getting a mouthful of your hair whilst dancing to Head Like a Hole. Go figure.
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-21 05:22 am (UTC)

Re: i wouldnt call it embarrasing (well not for you anyway)

Oops... And with an entire can of hairspray in it as well... No wonder I still have *lighter fear*!!

I was. And I remember cleaning the kitchen in the morning... Don't remember if I slept (most likely not) at all - but I do remember a HUGE fryup in the morning - John was DAMN good at them.

I saw Lin again not so long ago, tho I've lost her mobile number in the past year. Still just as rough and scary lolol!!
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-21 05:36 am (UTC)

Re: i wouldnt call it embarrasing (well not for you anyway)

And that would explain why I mixed you up with Pete - he used to hang out with Jon and Debs as well!!

I think you know him, and I think we've been through this before.

Think of me as a human goldfish.

(memory, my dear - not orange and scaley - I don't work in Dingles now do I?)
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[User Picture]From: hawklord2112
2004-10-21 05:53 am (UTC)

Re: i wouldnt call it embarrasing (well not for you anyway)

it was me and deb did the cooking, not John..
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-21 06:05 am (UTC)

Re: i wouldnt call it embarrasing (well not for you anyway)

NO WAY!!!!

*thumps head*
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-21 06:05 am (UTC)

Re: i wouldnt call it embarrasing (well not for you anyway)

Well, that just about says it all doesn't it!;)
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[User Picture]From: hawklord2112
2004-10-21 08:02 am (UTC)

Re: i wouldnt call it embarrasing (well not for you anyway)

way!

i also remember not being able to talk to you directly because i fancied you so much...
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-21 10:30 am (UTC)

Re: i wouldnt call it embarrasing (well not for you anyway)

Ah.
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[User Picture]From: hawklord2112
2004-10-21 10:38 am (UTC)

Re: i wouldnt call it embarrasing (well not for you anyway)

like i said, not embarrasing for you.

as you can no doubt tell, i've gotten over it.
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-21 10:39 am (UTC)

Re: i wouldnt call it embarrasing (well not for you anyway)

*mops forehead*

*grin*
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[User Picture]From: hawklord2112
2004-10-21 10:47 am (UTC)

Re: i wouldnt call it embarrasing (well not for you anyway)

::grins back::
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From: shardzz
2004-10-20 09:19 am (UTC)
"Voice of the Beehive"
:-o
I had forgotten they existed until you just mentioned them.
http://www.voiceofthebeehive.com/
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 09:20 am (UTC)
LOVE THEM!!!!!!

*grin*

I think I need to root around for my old tapes or do some HMV shopping again...

*fingers itch for wallet*
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[User Picture]From: bringmestars
2004-10-20 09:49 am (UTC)
hi babe. How are you? I really enjoyed reading about you life, Im lookng forward to seeing you at the fetish ball huni xxx
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 09:52 am (UTC)
I'm doing ok darling - spending too much time writing crap like this instead of doing my essay for college - but hey, I'm getting myself back in the creative flow, right??

*grin*

Looking forward to seeing you too - very much - and you are gonna LOVE what I'll be wearing - so no funny business unless I say so... *giggles*

xxx
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From: ranatash_moon
2004-10-20 10:23 am (UTC)
hiya,
im around again, just..lol ive had a creative day today first one in years you can see the link to the results on my journal.

My downward spiral would take ages to write up as well, as i started smoking, drinkin vodka, skating and hanging around with the punks when i was 11...lol

*Hugs* x
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 10:26 am (UTC)
Sounds not dissimilar to mine - I recently (start of august) met up with an old punk friend of mine who I used to sit around town with...

She had a huge red mohican at the time and wore dennis the menace type jumpers or dark green flightsuits. In later years, she was my 'supplier' lol!

*off to check your journal*
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[User Picture]From: etceterate
2004-10-20 01:16 pm (UTC)
Um... hate to be pedantic (ok, I'm lying, I love it) but Doctor and the Medics did 'Spirit in the Sky' (well, the '87 cover version, at any rate).
And naturally they're still going strong...
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 01:19 pm (UTC)
Oh duh - I always get the two mixed up... *editing*

I wrote this in a hurry at work after a can of red bull btw;)
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 01:22 pm (UTC)
Why was I thinking Zodiac Mindwarp I wonder? *ponders*

Must have been for some reason/influence and now I *wish* I knew what it was:/

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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 11:01 pm (UTC)
OH!!! PRIME MOVER!!!

I *think* I used to dance to it or play it at my friends house when we were putting our makeup on and crimping before going out on Fridays!!
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From: terminalerotica
2004-10-20 01:29 pm (UTC)
I started listening to bands like Nick Cave (I actually dressed up as Nick Cave for decade day at my school), Siouxsie and Co of course, I added a bit of Bauhaus, Sisters, and so on. It started wit hthe music and then the clothes came into play. My parents aren't fond of the clothing style and even less fond of the music. But they don't hassle me too much about it. I think I like the Sisters of Mercy best though. I'm still new to the scene (I'm only 16).
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 10:23 pm (UTC)
I've said it before and I'll say it again - NICK CAVE IS GOD!!!

I'm probably pretty much the same - always depended on how much cash I had where clothes were concerned, which is why I trawled jumble sales and charity shops... The music was easier - I could tape it off the radio and/or swap tapes with friends all the time:)

Sisters will always be my first love - always wanted to be Patricia Morrison as well lol - even that AWFUL egypt outfit... Goths in tweed/white suits? Eep - I looked dreadful!!

As for parents - oh dear - my parents were forced to listen to my music and actually took an interest in my band stuff too thankfully, even buying me a bass guitar and decent amp eventually...

My dad has always loved my music and listened a lot (I think he faked interest with some tho - especially Boltthrower...) - I always had to cough loudly over 'fuck me and marry me young' when they let me play Sisters in the car though!!

*grin*
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 11:03 pm (UTC)
Having said that, Siouxsie and the Cure were ACTUALLY my chronological first loves - but you *know* what I mean...

Eldritch was a god and Pat Morrison was always to be envied!
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From: terminalerotica
2004-11-01 10:44 pm (UTC)
I found out my Dad has a bit of "Goth" in him as well. He loves Depeche Mode. >D
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-11-01 11:42 pm (UTC)
D.Mode are cool (I've always had a bit of a 'soft spot' for Dave Gahan...) - and you now have a good excuse to pilfer from his cd collection hehe;)
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[User Picture]From: etherealdances
2004-10-20 06:21 pm (UTC)

hello

Just thought I would take this opportunity to introduce myself ~smiles~
And Mr Smith was the initial factor resulting in my downward spiral into Gothdom..something which I still can't escape no matter how hard I struggle ;)
Was interesting reading about your classical musical background. I went to music school in Manchester (chethams) and then on to the Royal College of music for my first study clarinet and also piano. Heh.. sometimes I wish I had never picked up the recorder! because freelancing and finding work is just so bloody difficult ~laughs~
Hmm.. you live in Devon. I think this is the first year in a long time I haven't been down to visit. Slapton sands near Dartmouth must be my most favourite place to sit. Many happy memories there!
Anyway.. enough of my waffling. Nice to meet you :)
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-20 10:28 pm (UTC)

Re: hello

I had a bit of a thing because we shared the same surname too *grin*... and because my parents are musicians union members I had his home address from the directory in no time. Never dared write tho;)

RCM? Cool! My parents met at Trinity college, London. I never got on with recorders - always had more of an affinity for strings, and besides, with a lipring, my mother tells me it's too late to start lol!!

Devon. Miserable shitty little rained on backwater on the arse end of England. Honestly, you're not missing much;)

You? Waffle??? I'm worse I'll bet! Nice to meet you too:)

*hugs*
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[User Picture]From: serpentbearer
2004-10-21 02:27 pm (UTC)

Re: hello

My sister's dad used to live near Crawley and remembered seeing Robert Smith in the dole queue while signing on - they may have gone to the same school, though a couple of years apart, IIRC. Not exactly a major link to him, but it meant something to me when I was 14 LOL
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-22 11:44 am (UTC)

Re: hello

Major enough for being smug at 14 lol!

*big hugs*
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[User Picture]From: hawklord2112
2004-10-21 02:22 am (UTC)
hmm. i was going to post mine here but it's a bit long.
hawklord2112
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-21 05:15 am (UTC)
Awww you should!!

Call it *your homework for the week*.

Btw - just worked out how old that amp of mine is - not surprised Laney is louder compared - considering what it's been through lololol!!
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-21 05:29 am (UTC)
Oh duh - I've just seen it here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/hawklord2112/63606.html

A Musical Histories game?? LOL! Must be the biggest/longest meme I've ever seen...

*grin*
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[User Picture]From: vashe
2004-10-21 09:34 am (UTC)
I shall write up mine in my journal - seeing as it's 0-17 I can just about to it :D *LOL*

I really enjoyed reading that :) Seeing as I consider you my big goff sister and all *grin* xx
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-10-21 10:31 am (UTC)
Awww sweetie!!

I'm really looking forward to seeing yours too *ahem*.

Seeing as I consider you my wickle goff sister too...

*grins back*
xxx
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