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For the Benefit of those such as Mr. Lakini - a post for one's memoires. [Nov. 24th, 2004|05:53 pm]
Miss Von Trapp
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The press in Britain has recently been having fun mocking a group for which pejorative descriptions have been created such as “non-educated delinquents” and “the burgeoning peasant underclass”. The subjects of these derogatory descriptions are said to be set apart by ignorance, fecklessness, mindless violence and bad taste.

To illustrate the last of these, critics point to their style of dress: a love of flashy gold jewellery (hooped earrings, thick neck chains, sovereign rings and heavy bangles, which all may be lumped together under the term bling-bling); the wearing of white trainers (in what is called “prison white”, so clean that they look new); clothes in fashionable brands with very prominent logos; and baseball caps, frequently in Burberry check, a favourite style. The women, the Daily Mail wrote recently in a characteristic burst of maidenly distaste, “pull their shoddily dyed hair back in that ultra-tight bun known as a ‘council-house facelift’, wear skirts too short for their mottled blue thighs, and expose too much of their distressingly flabby midriffs”.

This upsurge of popular distaste towards one group may be evidence for a cultural shift back towards a class-ridden British society—at least the fear that it might be so is causing some alarm in liberal circles. Critics point to the copying of the style by many younger television celebrities as a further dumbing-down of that medium. Much of the attention is due to the experience of a Web site, which was intended to be humorous but which was infiltrated by extremists who threatened to turn it into a hate site.

From a linguistic perspective the most interesting aspect is the wide variety of local names given to the type. Scots call them neds (often said to be an acronym of “non-educated delinquents”, but that’s a folk etymology, given credence by being mentioned as fact during a debate in the Scottish parliament in 2003; it’s actually from an abridged form of the given name Edward, which was attached to this group in the period of the teddy-boys, who dressed in a version of Edwardian costume), while Liverpudlians prefer scallies (a term of long-standing for a boisterous, disruptive or irresponsible young man); Kev is common around London (presumably from the given name Kevin, common among this group and popularised through the portrayal on his television show by the comedian Harry Enfield of an idiotic teenager with that name). Other terms recorded from various parts of the country are janners (from Plymouth), smicks, spides, moakes and steeks (all from Belfast), plus bazzas, scuffheads, stigs, stangers, yarcos, and kappa slappers (girls who wear Kappa brand tracksuits, slapper being British slang for a promiscuous or vulgar woman).

The term that has become especially widely known in recent weeks, at least in southern England, is the one borrowed for the name of the Web site, chav. A writer in the Independent thought it derived from the name of the town of Chatham in Kent, where the term is best known and probably originated. But it seems that the word is from a much older underclass, the gypsies, many of whom have lived in that area for generations. Chav is almost certainly from the Romany word for a child, chavi, recorded from the middle of the nineteenth century. We know it was being used as a term of address to an adult man a little later in the century, but it hasn’t often been recorded in print since and its derivative chav is quite new to most people.

Other terms for the class also have Romany connections; another is charver, Romany for prostitute. Yet another is the deeply insulting pikey, presumably from the Kentish dialect term for gypsy that was borrowed from turnpike, so a person who travels the roads.

Did chavi die out, only to be reinvented recently? That seems hardly likely from the written and anecdotal evidence; what we’re seeing is a term that has been in active but inconspicuous use for the last 150 years suddenly bursting out into wider popular use in a new sense through circumstances we don’t fully understand.


Do Your Research:

Dictionary Corner says:

Ironical Moo sick:
Goldie Lookin' Chain: http://www.youknowsit.co.uk/

View the HORROR!!:

Token Comedy Link:


Now, if only I could submit the above as my essay plan tommorrow then it would be 'job done'. As it is it should have been in Tuesday and I've not watched the film yet lol!!

*forces self off computer*

[User Picture]From: vimster
2004-11-24 10:15 am (UTC)
Goldie Lookin Chains make chavs almost likable. They're a bit hit-and-miss, but at least they had a single out called "Your Mother's Got A Penis".

Do you have a Dan working down there with you at RM? Someone by that name on your shift txtd the John Peel (RIP) show and asked for some happy hardcore. Hmmmm.
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-11-24 12:33 pm (UTC)
Dan? Absolutely no idea. There are already 200 on our shift and we've just got hold of another 400 for nights over the xmas period alone lol!!!

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[User Picture]From: deleriumd
2004-11-24 11:30 am (UTC)
So Chavs are white trash?
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-11-24 12:33 pm (UTC)
I think that would be just about the sum of it.

The 'Trisha' crowd to your 'Springer' types;)
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[User Picture]From: fart_pellet
2004-11-24 11:40 am (UTC)


Swill [or Swilley if you prefer] has also gained a popular foothold in Plymouth I believe, derived from the fashionable neighbourhood of course.

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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-11-24 12:34 pm (UTC)

Re: Swilley!

Oh, you mean the up-and-coming area just north of town?

Good Prospects, so I heard. Might rent a burnt out car there for a holiday home hehe...
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[User Picture]From: kid_sportswear
2004-11-24 08:06 pm (UTC)
They sound a delightful treat for drunken, violent loudmouths such as myself and Ms. Chitin! Bless their hearts.
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-11-24 09:44 pm (UTC)
Trust me, you DON'T want to do it:/
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[User Picture]From: kid_sportswear
2004-11-24 09:52 pm (UTC)
Oh, how hard can they be? They tuck their socks into their pants.
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-11-24 10:00 pm (UTC)
Well, when you've grown up with their previous generation (ie. 15 year old parents) spitting at you and throwing stones (and far far worse) just for looking 'goffek' then you might reconsider.

Trust me, for all the current humour regarding these scummy lads/ladettes of late, most of them are NOT VERY NICE - especially after about 8 pints of WifeBeater (that's Stella Artois to you) - and the majority (oh, and they ARE the majority) are so pig-thick that wit and wisdom will have no bearing on whether you can get them to like you or not.

Best thing is to HIDE OUT OF SIGHT or simply turn tail and run like buggery in the opposite direction should a 'situation' occur...

How hard can they be??

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[User Picture]From: kid_sportswear
2004-11-24 10:17 pm (UTC)
Bah...If I can handle west coast gutter crusts, I can handle some kids in plaid hats.

Besides, I know choregraphy. I'd moidalize 'em!
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[User Picture]From: kid_sportswear
2004-11-24 10:22 pm (UTC)
Oh wait...did you think I meant to efriend them? Good heavens no! I just want to have a bit of a rumble is all. Trounce the little tossers for my Pleasure, maybe do a bit of the ol' Yiddishe Charleston on their heads. Aww.
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-11-25 05:49 am (UTC)
That would be funny to see, but my money would be on the chavs lol!!

Mr. Lakini - some of those thugs would break you like a twig:/

(thank heavens for first aider training)
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[User Picture]From: kid_sportswear
2004-11-25 06:10 am (UTC)
Hee...we shall see!
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[User Picture]From: achadachad
2004-11-25 02:44 pm (UTC)
ah bless the Daily Mail, they got another winner there

like them being pro-Hitler in the 1930s...

: ) there will always be a class divide while there is a Mail
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[User Picture]From: mark_coyle
2004-11-26 05:32 am (UTC)
Hi , I added your " chav vs goth " cartoon link on my journal , hope you don't mind ...... looks away with guilt .
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-12-03 10:26 pm (UTC)
No probs lol:)
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