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A Real Bobby Dazzler!!! [Jan. 18th, 2004|07:23 pm]
Miss Von Trapp
[Mood |amusedamused]
[Music |Helicopters and Wild Animal Roars...(tv in the background)]

I've had a typically lazy Sunday...theatre doesn't get hectic until Wednesday. I've done bugger all but lie in bed reading Kafka (The Trial) and then sitting watching TV...

Watched Rolf Harris's artist programme on BBC1: 3 random artists painting a celebrity and then said celebrity picking the favourite finished artwork to have in his/her house...

This week it was David Dickinson, of 'Bargain Hunt' fame (over the table, under the table, cheap as chips!!)...two of the three artists were trained...middle-aged ex-art college artists...the other one was a guy who has never been to art college and was entirely self-taught...

Guess who produced the best painting, and consequently the one that D. Dickinson took home? That's right...the untrained bloke. And rightly so...it was by far the best there, and full of life and emotion...the other two were rubbish...one looked like it should hang in a boardroom or a politician's study, the other looked like an illustration from a crap story in a women's magazine...

Gives fresh hope to aspiring house-wife 'artists' the country over lol...those ones that buy the 'learn to paint watercolour' partworks and such...

*looks pointedly toward her mother*

Shame they don't have the same talent as that bloke. Some things CANNOT be taught...it's like music...you can learn how to play a pattern of dots, much like touch-typing...but you can't learn how to express yourself and make the music live...that can only come from within. I feel the same about acting to be honest, and most art-related pursuits.

We may all have 'a book inside us' (spew!), but it's another thing entirely to be able to write it and convey it to an audience effectively.

After Rolf's brief diversion, I ended up watching half of Antiques Roadshow and the tail end of 'Mighty Joe Young' on Channel 5. God-awful pap that was!!

Will probably end up watching 'Batman Forever' as well, since it's on...it's called 'Soul Man' syndrome...

'Soul Man syndrome' is based entirely on the reasoning that you never end up watching the films you WANT to watch, but always settle in and watch all the crap tv-movie standard mediocre films late at night when you're bored with nothing better to do...

(as was the case with 'Scary Movie' the other day)

Obviously, it originated from such an experience...namely the utterly chronic film 'Soul Man' in which a white guy takes some kind of tanning capsule to win a black scholarship to college...dire, but I ended up watching it end to end, thus inspiring the 'syndrome' lol

There you go!!

Thoroughly bored now, but I'm going to be cooking Toad in the Hole later on.



Pilfered from pistorius:

So, my droogs, I got Beef Oven...joy of joys!!

Ludwig van Beethoven remains extremely infamous to this day, known for his temper and fits. And it's true, he did have them, but he tended more to exist in a state of perpetual misunderstood melancholy. He even pondered suicide upon the approach of his total deafness, but he decided to keep his life for the sake of his music, despite the fact that he couldn't hear it.
A few key works: Symphony No. 5, Symphony No. 9, Fidelio, Missa Solemnis

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[User Picture]From: serpentbearer
2004-01-18 01:02 pm (UTC)
I disagree to an extent that you can't 'learn' to be a talented artist/musician etc. While it's true that some people have a special talent in one of those areas (or more than one area, for some people) I don't think this is any more particular to art or music than it is Maths or English. Maybe for some people the journey is easier, but even those people who really have a 'gift' still generally need to work hard to make the most of that gift. I'm not suggesting that some people aren't inherently better at something than most other people, or that everyone can end up good at everything if taught in the right way, but I think that a lot of being a good artist or musician is knowing how to use a certain set of skills in the most effective way, the same as it is for a mathematician or a writer. I think this is probably as true of developing the ability to express yourself as it is developing the technical skills of, say, drawing.

Yet I know what you mean about the way in which self-taught artists often seem to have a quality that a lot of trained artists don't. I think a part of this is that people who have been taught by others to do something, particularly in an environment which may have set 'traditions' (which seems often to be the case for trained artists and musicians), may develop a range of skills, and knowledge of how best to use those skills to achieve the effect they want, but by the same token they may be constrained by those skills. Someone who is self-taught may not have the same skills (though it is likely that through experimentation and imitation they have developed most of them, or skills which approximate the 'traditional' skills) but they may also be less constrained - perhaps more likely to 'break the rules'. Certainly this is a generalisation, but reading I have done and observation of artists and musicians I've known does suggest it to me.

I have an ulterior motive for wanting to believe this though. I believe I have some natural talent for expressing myself, strengthened by the way in which I have been allowed and encouraged to develop, but so far have found that my musical/artistic/writing abilties haven't been enough for me to express myself through any of these channels. If it is true that you've either got it or you haven't as regards artistic ability, then I find myself in the position that I have strong artistic urges and no way to express them, which is too depressing a thought to contemplate!
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-01-18 02:39 pm (UTC)
I do agree with what you say there...I was being rather sweeping to be honest...tho I do believe that there are some people that no matter how hard they try they can't do it. This I have seen with some of my parents music pupils over the years...time and time again their parents send them to lessons...but they just can't get past the basic level.

I'm the same with playing the piano too...I just can't do it AT ALL. Can't co-ordinate the left hand with the right, tho I can pick them out separately... So I've given up lol!! With some people it is inherently there or it isn't, for me, the piano (and many other things to be honest) will never be mastered;)

With regards to artistic ability...which is not a science and cannot really be learned as such except on a half-decent acceptable level perhaps...there are ways of expression, but what I am trying to say is that there are also levels of mastery. I'm crap at painting...will never be any real good at it on the level of all the famous artists etc...but that doesn't mean I'll not have a good go anyway, and find a way to express myself through it...

Don't panic!! I have those thoughts too y'know!!
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[User Picture]From: vimster
2004-01-18 02:24 pm (UTC)
Soulman Syndrome! (hahahah) oh how many crap films have I sat and watched all the way through without really meaning to? Too many to mention. I will draw the line at those 'based on real events' TV movies, you know, disabled kids in custody battle, that sort of thing.

David 'The Duke' Dickinson has such a superb face, packed with character, the Lovejoy mullet cresting his head. I'm sure it was great fun to render - energy over accuracy, I say. Why bother to paint it as if it were a photo when you could just have the photo?
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-01-18 02:45 pm (UTC)
You mean countless remakes of 'Not Without My Daughter' or the 'Amy Fisher' story???

I have seen SO many of those lolol...usually before NightScreen kicks in at about 5am...

*hangs head in shame*
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[User Picture]From: etceterate
2004-01-18 02:35 pm (UTC)
'Soul Man syndrome'... aka 'Policeacademyitis'...
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-01-18 02:46 pm (UTC)
Hey!! Porky's has just started on Channel 5!!!

(And, yes, I watched the whole of 'Batman Forever' hehe)
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From: wingsfromashes
2004-01-21 01:27 pm (UTC)
I got Gustav Mahler. Unfortunately I don't know a lot about him, but I picked "completely nuts!" for a couple questions. ;)

What's a Toad in a Hole? Forgive a pathetically ignorant yankee, hehe.

And I agree with you and serpentbearer. Natural talent can be honed with training, but still I think self-taught people do have a freedom that often traditionally trained artists don't. :)
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[User Picture]From: missvontrapp
2004-01-21 09:37 pm (UTC)
Toad in the Hole is an oven dish with sausages in and yorkshire pudding-type batter (not fish and chip shop batter)(more doughy) all around:)
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From: wingsfromashes
2004-01-23 08:47 am (UTC)
Sounds tasty!
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